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by renami/carnage Fri May 08, 2020 9:09 pm

1. Steam Profile Link (or Battle.net etc.): -

2. Do you have any alternate accounts (accounts that you own or use, apart from the account you are applying with)? If yes, please state the usernames with their respective profile links:

Allure: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/?a=&s=7&ac=Allure&id=1816091
Luminary: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/?a=&s=7&ac=Luminary&id=1707096

3. Are you currently in a clan? No. Anything on my account is just a tag.

3b. What clans were you in after leaving GeNo? None. NephPL isn't technically a clan.

3c. Why did you join those clans? -

4. Why did you leave GeNo? I was self-conscious about my skill and I felt bad about "being bad in PB2." I've come to the epiphany that all of that is completely meaningless. I knew that before; Now I truly know it now.

5. [Critical] Why do you wish to come back?  For the same reasons I applied with before. I was even surprised when 3 members came to me personally after I left chat.

6. [Critical] What would you contribute this time that you didn't contribute last time you were in GeNo? I'm still practicing coding but I consider my self to be a good writer and good at English essays. If you all wish to consult me for writing documents or such, you may.

7. [Critical] How did you display good behavior in GeNo? How did you display bad behavior in GeNo? Good behavior: I think I got a long with everyone I spoke with. This isn't me trying to be pompous, but I truly don't think I infringed on any GeNo rules

8. [Optional] Current country/state of residence: Miami, FL, USA

9. Discord Username (followed by Discord ID #0000): Baphomet#3369

10. How active will you be on GeNo forums and Discord Chat? Mostly as active as before, if I'm honest.

11. [Critical] In your own opinion, from the clan's perspective, why should we accept you back into this clan? For a question like this, I truly don't know. This is a burden of choice upon you all but I suppose I still meet the criteria for being a GeNo member. What may those be? Wanting to have fun on a multitude of games. Showing at least half decent conduct... etc.

12. [Critical] By applying to GeNo, you will show the utmost respect to your fellow clan members and leaders, as well as to players outside of this clan. This includes being honest about your application and your answers during each phase, and with others concerning your actions. Failure to do so will result in severe consequences, such as dismissal from the clan. If in any case, you wish to leave GeNo, you must sign out a resignation form to confirm your leaving. If you do not fill it in, we have every right to say we kicked you out of the clan. There are codes of conduct that must be followed if you are going to represent our clan. Do you believe you can handle this responsibility? As before, yes.

13. Extra comments/questions: None, the choice is yours now.
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by renami/carnage Fri May 08, 2020 9:12 pm

For 7Critical I meant "along"
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by Reloadium Fri May 08, 2020 9:13 pm

Questioning Phase Begins.

Your answer to Q7 is incomplete, so can you fully answer it?
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by renami/carnage Fri May 08, 2020 9:19 pm

Reloadium wrote:Questioning Phase Begins.

Your answer to Q7 is incomplete, so can you fully answer it?
Good Behavior: Getting along with other players/members
Bad Behavior: I guess you consider inactivity bad behavior but I don't think you all do. Maybe I might have said something off-tone or slightly offensive. I am truly not sure
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by loki Fri May 08, 2020 9:23 pm

I have several doubts about your responses but i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt for now.

Do you plan to be active in the clan, or more active than you were before?




More active than this?
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by renami/carnage Fri May 08, 2020 9:25 pm

loki wrote:I have several doubts about your responses but i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt for now.

Do you plan to be active in the clan, or more active than you were before?




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I can try to but I'm not making any promises as I'm extremely busy with online school.
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by thespartan Sat May 09, 2020 12:47 am

Yo Carnagee, glad to see your application, from what I know of you, you seem like a decent guy and generally no problems!

However, I see that you said you have a lot of online school, if that is the case should you not wait for some of the school to die down first and clear some time before applying to GeNo if u dont think you can handle it?


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by Kneelfrox Sat May 09, 2020 6:43 am

You should've thought about your resignation before submitting it.

renami/carnage wrote:5. [Critical] Why do you wish to come back? For the same reasons I applied with before.

Be informed that this is your application and we base on this. You can't just tell us to look into your past application for us to know your reasons. So once again, clearly state your reason.

In your resignation, you stated that you can't fulfill your duty as a member of such clan. That's a reason to deny you. Because why would we accept you back if what you said was true?

Like what Spartan has said, why'd we accept you back if you can't be that active? You might leave again.

Overall, I'm not satisfied with your answers.
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by Victor Sat May 09, 2020 7:19 am

I'm aware Nephilim's PL team isn't a clan, but Nephilim itself is, and there's claims flying around that you tried to join it. However, I've seen multiple screenshots disproving that theory and I'm giving you the benefit on the doubt on this one simply because everyone that we asked returned the exact same response.

Putting that aside, you left because you had a ''feeling of rather an obligation to be active in a larger clan''.
Why were you inactive? If the answer to this question is ''I didn't fit in'', then why didn't you leave sooner?



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by renami/carnage Sat May 09, 2020 1:38 pm

Kneelfrox wrote:You should've thought about your resignation before submitting it.

renami/carnage wrote:5. [Critical] Why do you wish to come back? For the same reasons I applied with before.

Be informed that this is your application and we base on this. You can't just tell us to look into your past application for us to know your reasons. So once again, clearly state your reason.

In your resignation, you stated that you can't fulfill your duty as a member of such clan. That's a reason to deny you. Because why would we accept you back if what you said was true?

Like what Spartan has said, why'd we accept you back if you can't be that active? You might leave again.

Overall, I'm not satisfied with your answers.

1.) I'm in agreement with the first sentence. The reason was mostly that it's a friendly chat for people who like games alike. You don't have to look at my original application now I suppose.
2.) I have no more reason to leave again. I can multitask. Obviously I'd have to put my work as a priority over a chat/group, hence why I'm not making any promises that I'd have 1000+ messages. I simply may not have the time.
3.) I no longer feel a "duty" to be constantly typing in a group chat. I have had a change of mind. That is why I'm re-applying.

Elitech wrote:I'm aware Nephilim's PL team isn't a clan, but Nephilim itself is, and there's claims flying around that you tried to join it. However, I've seen multiple screenshots disproving that theory and I'm giving you the benefit on the doubt on this one simply because everyone that we asked returned the exact same response.

Putting that aside, you left because you had a ''feeling of rather an obligation to be active in a larger clan''.
Why were you inactive? If the answer to this question is ''I didn't fit in'', then why didn't you leave sooner?




Any claim that I tried to join Nephilim isn't exactly true. The most I did to even come slightly close to that was joke around in Crash's DMs as to how since I did callouts in Muscle Milk VC that I deserve to be in Nephilim. Obviously, that is ludicrous and I didn't even believe in it nor did I expect him to accept such a ridiculous request. I'm a member of Neph Chat because it has Muscle Milk members in it. That is all.

Keep in mind when I say even all of that, that my DMs with Crash aren't too be taken seriously at all in any sort of modicum.

"Putting that aside, you left because you had a ''feeling of rather an obligation to be active in a larger clan."

And this is me retracting that sentiment. I was naive when I said that. I have been in multiple large groups and I don't know why I was starting to feel imposed by GeNo. I think I've solved this personal issue by myself, which is why I came back. I no longer feel like a "fake" member as I expressed to Jay.

I answered why I was inactive.

thespartan wrote:Yo Carnagee, glad to see your application, from what I know of you, you seem like a decent guy and generally no problems!

However, I see that you said you have a lot of online school, if that is the case should you not wait for some of the school to die down first and clear some time before applying to GeNo if u dont think you can handle it?



I mostly answered this in the above quotes. If you could read those, that'd be nice.


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by Vesper Sat May 09, 2020 10:06 pm

renami/carnage wrote:1. Steam Profile Link (or Battle.net etc.): -

?? I thought you had a Steam.

Looking back to your resignation, I saw you said this:

renami/carnagee wrote:I haven't contributed much and I plan on joining a smaller group to converse or such.

I think you're a cool guy but I just don't understand what epiphanic event caused your change of heart in less than 2 weeks.

It means nothing if you're in a group and you don't have a bond with any of the members. And I've yet to see you actually trying to create any, before or after you left.
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by Reloadium Sun May 10, 2020 4:18 am

I don't see how you found time to stay in PL but not for GeNo when you told me in DMs that you had tons of online school work, and you even stream the matches sometimes in their voice chat.

You also told me that you couldn't stay up past 10 o'clock because you had epilepsy and that you were trying to reduce your screen time, yet you sent 3 messages in Nephilim chat at around Midnight, or 4 hours ago at the time of writing this message.


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I'm not sure what to make out of this, and I'm not sure why you lied. You seem to care a lot about Nephilim, even though you're not in it. To me it seems like you're clan hopping because you got denied from a different group and now you're trying to join this one because you got easily accepted the last time.
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by renami/carnage Sun May 10, 2020 3:15 pm

Reloadium wrote:I don't see how you found time to stay in PL but not for GeNo when you told me in DMs that you had tons of online school work, and you even stream the matches sometimes in their voice chat.

You also told me that you couldn't stay up past 10 o'clock because you had epilepsy and that you were trying to reduce your screen time, yet you sent 3 messages in Nephilim chat at around Midnight, or 4 hours ago at the time of writing this message.


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I'm not sure what to make out of this, and I'm not sure why you lied. You seem to care a lot about Nephilim, even though you're not in it. To me it seems like you're clan hopping because you got denied from a different group and now you're trying to join this one because you got easily accepted the last time.

The 10 pm screen limit refers to specific devices that have been restricted remotely by my mother. Anything after 10 but before 12 is on my iPad. Anything after 12 but before 6 is probably on my phone.

I do callouts in PL. It's very easy to make time for that. As a matter of fact, I schedule how I do assignments around whenever someone wants me as a substitute or anything. If I can't do it, I wont. That has yet to happen.

I haven't streamed that many matches. Definitely less than 4 at least. None of that consumes too much time and I only do it once I'm in the clear for school (Coincidentally, very rarely).

My school work is due on a weekly basis.

This was not any intentional lie. I didn't tell you that much detail because I thought it was irrelevant. I only have opportunities to stay up like that when my guardian is at work (at my present age of writing this).

The devices blocked are my: Xbox 360, Xbox One, Laptop, iPhone

As for the reasons I don't reply to questions after 10:
My iPad loads this site slowly
My iPad keyboard obscures the text box when I manage to load the site
I have to use my data on my phone after 10, so it's just as slow. It has the same keyboard issue and sometimes only half of the site loads

How am I on Discord then?
Discord is frankly easy to load on app for both my mobile devices.
I don't get much if at all delay when sending messages.

Vesper wrote:
renami/carnage wrote:1. Steam Profile Link (or Battle.net etc.): -

?? I thought you had a Steam.

Looking back to your resignation, I saw you said this:

renami/carnagee wrote:I haven't contributed much and I plan on joining a smaller group to converse or such.

I think you're a cool guy but I just don't understand what epiphanic event caused your change of heart in less than 2 weeks.

It means nothing if you're in a group and you don't have a bond with any of the members. And I've yet to see you actually trying to create any, before or after you left.

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"...I just don't understand what epiphanic event caused your change of heart in less than 2 weeks."
It was more introspection than an "event."

I thought about my individual skill at PB2: My conclusion was that it doesn't matter to GeNo or the rest of the real world.
I thought about my activity: My conclusion was that I could try my best to be active in a symbiotic relationship between my studies and such.

"It means nothing if you're in a group and you don't have a bond with any of the members."
You haven't see me "try to create any" because they were either in DMs or in matches. I'm specifically referencing Xemonis because we've had lengthy conversations in game and we can easily start more. If you want to see me start to make more bonds, that's a fair criticism.
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by Reloadium Sun May 10, 2020 3:24 pm

I'm not sure why you thought joining in and making fun of one of our members in a different chat was a good idea to you. I've censored her face in case she doesn't want this to go out to the public.


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by renami/carnage Sun May 10, 2020 3:29 pm

Reloadium wrote:I'm not sure why you thought joining in and making fun of one of our members in a different chat was a good idea to you. I've censored her face in case she doesn't want this to go out to the public.


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I don't think that's anything to take seriously at all. I don't even know her personally. I actually think she's cute.

That's mostly impertinent to me and a huge reach if it's a reason to not accept me in my opinion.
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by Victor Sun May 10, 2020 3:33 pm

I actually think that's straight up lies and that you just joined in on the bandwagon, but it's just my opinion.
Says a lot about you, I guess. Thanks for helping me figure out what I'm going to vote.
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by Xemonis Sun May 10, 2020 3:45 pm

Whether you meant it or not is besides the point. Like what Elitech said, you joined in on the bandwagon, which leads me to believe this might not be the first instance, or even the last if you're accepted. As you most likely know, we don't have the same tasteless humor as the members of Neph do. She's currently a member of GeNo, as Reloadium pointed out, so saying something like that doesn't make you look too good in our eyes. My question is, why say it at all?

That's all from me.
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by renami/carnage Sun May 10, 2020 3:48 pm

Xemonis wrote:Whether you meant it or not is besides the point. Like what Elitech said, you joined in on the bandwagon, which leads me to believe this might not be the first instance, or even the last if you're accepted. As you most likely know, we don't have the same tasteless humor as the members of Neph do. She's currently a member of GeNo, as Reloadium pointed out, so saying something like that doesn't make you look too good in our eyes. My question is, why say it at all?

That's all from me.

"...why say it at all"

It was simply a dumb joke J. Be reasonable here.
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by renami/carnage Sun May 10, 2020 5:53 pm

I'll also be the first to tell you that I'm a contrarian when I need to be. You may thing that something like this is indicative of some sort of predisposed personality type you've made up. That's your prerogative to believe that.

I don't see good outlooks on this application but I tried my best and I was honest. That's the end of the line
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by Reloadium Mon May 11, 2020 8:11 pm

Voting Phase Begins.

-1 To me, you seem to care a lot about Nephilim and you converse a lot to the people that are in it. You insulting one of our members was very unacceptable, and what you did was basically riding the bandwagon in Neph chat. I don't think any sensible person would insult a person that they think are cute, no matter what, and I think that your excuse to it was extremely bullshit. It wasn't simply a dumb joke, it was you riding the bandwagon because you like to converse with them and you wouldn't be "cool" if you didn't insult her or tried to defend her.
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